"It's a part of our culture that I certainly don't identify with and I don't really understand the appeal of it other than that car-crash sensibility. It's not something that I partake in or enjoy, but it is what it is and here we are."
Kartheiser added: "I agree with everything he said. I mean, I think our society enjoys to turn on the television and seeing someone who is awful; they can say, 'At least I'm not as terrible as that person.'"
"There are a lot of channels on the dial," said Hamm. "And those channels have to be filled up with things. ... Different strokes for different folks."
As for what Kim has to say about that? She hasn't said anything yet... Maybe she knows that they might be right!
[The Today Show]